mybenito Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 What up with Jack Johnson headlining giant music festivals? He's headliner for Outside Lands, Bonnarroo, and Coachella. I just don't see how he tops the bill over Wilco or Beck (Outside Lands). I've never seen Jack Johnson live before but the music I've heard seems pretty mellow. Not the kind of music I'd expect to get thousands of people ready to party to start party'n. How will he follow someone like Wilco? He will follow them with a stool and an acoustic guitar. Sure, he sells a lot of records, but I don't see him as a festival headliner. I don't get it and I don't like it. Oh well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VenusStopsTrain2 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 What up with Jack Johnson headlining giant music festivals? He's headliner for Outside Lands, Bonnarroo, and Coachella. I just don't see how he tops the bill over Wilco or Beck (Outside Lands). I've never seen Jack Johnson live before but the music I've heard seems pretty mellow. Not the kind of music I'd expect to get thousands of people ready to party to start party'n. How will he follow someone like Wilco? He will follow them with a stool and an acoustic guitar. Sure, he sells a lot of records, but I don't see him as a festival headliner. I don't get it and I don't like it. Oh well.I agree..I can totally see him in an outdoors setting on his own or live in concert on his own but not for a festival...I think everyone would be drinking and start booing... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 it doesn't make a ton of sense, but he is pretty damn popular, especially in California (southern even moreso) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Apparently he has been strappin' on an electric guitar recently, so it can't be too lazy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Apparently he has been strappin' on an electric guitar recently, so it can't be too lazy. oh it's still pretty mellow/boring. this latest record is probably his weakest yet i think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 His shows have a fair amount of energy from what I've seen. He's up there with a full band and they add a lot of swing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mybenito Posted March 27, 2008 Author Share Posted March 27, 2008 His shows have a fair amount of energy from what I've seen. He's up there with a full band and they add a lot of swing.But those songs. You can't put racing stripes on a Hyundai and call it a race car. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardwood floor Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 dude sucks beyond belief truly wretched Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 His shows have a fair amount of energy from what I've seen. He's up there with a full band and they add a lot of swing. unless it's changed a ton in the last 5 years, there's not much energy there at all to be honest. look, i like Jack, especially personally, he's one of the nicest and most down to earth dudes around. I got to know him and bandmates Adam & Merlo pretty well in 2001 when he was on tour opening for Ben Harper (prior to his first album blowing up) as I saw 4 or 5 shows that spring, but his music is pretty one dimensional and his shows are quite dull for the most part. he's showed pretty much zero growth musically over the course of his records. not saying he needs to pull a Kid A, but come on. the version of Breakdown that appeared on the Handsome Boy Modeling School record is WAY better than Jack's own version, he could do more stuff like that at least. Jack is the Jimmy Buffett of this generation, pretty damn sure of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 There's that whole thread about the subjective nature of music down there you could check out for my opinion, but instead I'll just say that I enjoy his music (more so than 90% of this board) and don't find it dull at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 fair enough. there's just not enough going on musically for me to put up with the so-so melodies. his first record had some truly great/catchy songs, but those have been few and far between on the albums since (2nd one was OK). like i said, i wish his music interested me more than it does, because personally he's fantastic, but oh well :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killer Whales Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 I like Jack Johnson alright. His last album was probably his best yet, and I've seen video of him playing live and it seemed pretty good. However, I don't understand his headlining. I don't care how popular he is. He just doesn't have the kind of energy that's needed to bring people to the main stage. As far as Wilco goes, I'm not sure they'd be good for a headlining slot either. When I saw them at Bonnaroo last summer, they were the perfect late Sunday afternoon come down. They were relatively mellow and I was able to just relax and enjoy my favorite band. Although my foot will likely be in my mouth if they wind up headlining Lolla And Beck headlining? I've never really thought of that, but he would be a perfect headliner at any festival. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 For the record, I think he's more suited to play the 5:30 set at most of these festivals, but I don't necessarily have a problem with him headlining. I actually think he might close out Bonnaroo with a nice chill performance, which would be perfect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mybenito Posted March 27, 2008 Author Share Posted March 27, 2008 [And Beck headlining? I've never really thought of that, but he would be a perfect headliner at any festival.I think Beck headlined Vegoose before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scalzunfield Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 My girlfriend loves Jack Johnson and he's one of my major musical turnoffs. The dude fails to develop as a songwriter from album to album and his albums continue to get more boring and lazy due to it. No matter how much I try, I can't make it through an entire album in a sitting. Just soooooo boring and so many lyrics that leave me cringing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Perhaps I'm a snob, or maybe I'm a wuss, but in the 5 times I've been to the ACL fest, I've stuck around for the headliner exactly once (Tom Petty, with a smirk). They always want someone with the broadest appeal, which often = not terribly interesting. Yeah, I'm a snob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Perhaps I'm a snob, or maybe I'm a wuss, but in the 5 times I've been to the ACL fest, I've stuck around for the headliner exactly once (Tom Petty, with a smirk). They always want someone with the broadest appeal, which often = not terribly interesting. Yeah, I'm a snob. Indubitably Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Jack Johnson blows goats. Prefab formulaic radio-ready horseshit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PopTodd Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 My 6-year-old likes him because he did the music in the Curious George movie.As to me, he's innoccous. Don't hate him, but I don't love him, either.I'd much rather listen to Jack Johnson than to Dave Matthews. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardwood floor Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 I'd much rather listen to Jack Johnson than to Dave Matthews. that's a rough one both just suck beyond comprehension Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 jimmy buffett, during his prime, at least had quite humorous lyrics! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Acres Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Jack is the Jimmy Buffett of this generation, pretty damn sure of that. EXQUISITELY put, Kyle (and you're right about the lyrics Matt)... but I would also choose him over Dave Matthews, with a rifle pointed at my privates, of course... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blue and Green Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 jimmy buffett, during his prime, at least had quite humorous lyrics!Don't you mean unlistenable? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 matter of taste. i really like the 70's buffett before he became a cliche of himself. i also used to listen to boyzIImen so what do i know! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 jimmy buffett, during his prime, at least had quite humorous lyrics!Calling them "humorous" may be a stretch, but the fact is, Buffett didn't seem to take himself too seriously. That's why his name shouldn't be invoked when talking about Jack Johnson, who seems dead serious about his suckitude. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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